Posts by The Oracle

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NEW U-TUBE VIDEO, XJW STYLE

by hubert in

jw
friends

hey friends, please check out the new video on u-tube and let me know what you think, so we can debate it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfdirpdbqgw.

no, it's not mine, i just feel like debating it.

The Oracle

Yes, the memorial video was a definite squirmer.

The WT leadership deserves no respect, however I didn't really like the mocking nature of the memorial video as it disrespected individual people rather than constructively try and wake people up. And as 5th Genereation stated - there are a lot of well meaning and nice people still trapped in the JW religion/sect/cult or however you want to classify it.

I am glad she took the memorial video down. This one is better.

I believe the person who wrote the out of the cocoon book and did these two videos is probably a little unstable herself, and has suffered some psychological damage from her ordeal with the JWs.

That's why I cut her a bit of slack.

Peace on earth,

The Oracle

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NEW U-TUBE VIDEO, XJW STYLE

by hubert in

jw
friends

hey friends, please check out the new video on u-tube and let me know what you think, so we can debate it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfdirpdbqgw.

no, it's not mine, i just feel like debating it.

The Oracle

I thought it was fairly well done, and made some excellent points.

I did get a good chuckle out of it too.

The 666 thing on the outside of the door would literally scare a huge % of JWs away from watching any further - which is too bad.

All in all I give it 7 bags of popcorn out of 10.

I also agree with another poster that it is also a bit of a vent for her, and no doubt a little therapeutic. She has been treated like crap by her family - all because of ridiculous and evil man-made rules, so I have to cut her some slack.

The Oracle

18

This girl "wants" to die.

by Hiddenwindow in

jw
friends

she was given a blood transfusion and her condition improved, but she is appearing in court to petition her own death.

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here is indoctrination for you.. http://winnipegsun.com/news/canada/2007/10/26/4606617-sun.html.

The Oracle

I am a peace loving man, but I have to admit that part of me conjures up thoughts of biblical style justice when I read things like this.

For a moment I imagine myself taking a plane out to Brooklyn and pounding the the living sh*t out of each and every member of the GB.

They are the ones I hold accountable - even more so than the parents of this poor child.

They have the power to stop the madness - yet they do not.

Then I realize that I am above such neandarthal-like activity, and I simply feel more resolve than ever to continue the fight to save more people from this evil organization.

The Oracle

25

"New Light" Not Waking People Up !!!

by AlphaOmega in

i have absolutely no idea how to get through to some people.... i mentioned the 1935 change to a jw, and told him that i'd seen the change coming... it was a logical progression, not a revelation from god to the fds.... his response ?.

"i've also had changes revealed to me before the fds makes the change, it just goes to show that jehovah reveals it to his people and that the witnesses have the truth.".

aaaaargh !!!!.

The Oracle

The Oracle... Thank you... I guess that is what I am trying to do, but it came across here as me jumping up and down sounding like a screaming apostate foaming at the mouth
I'll pursue the "what do you think" line a bit more.

You're welcome!

Keep up the great work!

People deserve a chance to wake up and learn the real truth!

Peace bro,

The Oracle

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What the hell is the MATTER with these people?

by mkr32208 in

i work nights so when i get off i'll run by walmart to grab something to make for breakfast or just if i need something or whatever.

this morning at 6:55 (i know because i looked at my watch) a little black girl maybe 7 years old came up to me by herself to offer me a tract... i mean come on it's still full freaking dark out and this poor little kid is handing out tracts alone.

i asked her "where are your parents.

The Oracle

I get sad whenever I see a child out in the ministry, reglardless of the time of day or the location.

When you take a step back and look at the big picture, it is actually a form of child abuse, whether the parents realize it or not

The Oracle

21

Ask an elder a question

by JH in

jw
friends

what would you ask them, if you had just "one question", and they would have to say the truth !!

!

The Oracle

Have you ever had oral sex?

If so, why are you still serving?

24

How many of you are still affected by "Armageddon?"

by Soledad in

jw
friends

i know i am, or at least now i'm finally willing to admit it.

when making future plans, i still have "jehovah's day" in the back of my mind.

i never caught myself doing that until fairly recently, and i just realized that it was holding me back in many ways.

The Oracle

Personally, I have no fear of Armageddon.

If it is coming I am sure I'll be fine - that is, if God is truly a God of love who is able to read hearts.

However, if God is a vindictive asshole like the WT portrays him as - then I'm a dead man, but as Changeling said I would never serve such a horrible creature anyway.

Peace to all,

The Oracle

25

"New Light" Not Waking People Up !!!

by AlphaOmega in

i have absolutely no idea how to get through to some people.... i mentioned the 1935 change to a jw, and told him that i'd seen the change coming... it was a logical progression, not a revelation from god to the fds.... his response ?.

"i've also had changes revealed to me before the fds makes the change, it just goes to show that jehovah reveals it to his people and that the witnesses have the truth.".

aaaaargh !!!!.

The Oracle

Alpha,

Try to get his/her mind working - out of the box.

Ask them to speculate on what other changes may be coming.

Float some out there yourself.

1914 will probably change

607 will probably change

If they protest that its too radical - bring up how a central teaching (the generation that would not pass away) was changed so anything goes. If a teaching considered so central that it would be included in the mastehead of the Awake for years can be completely changed then anything is open to a 360 turn about.

Forcing them to think is the key IMHO

It has worked for me, when trying to free minds...

Cheers!

The Oracle

53

What has this religion become? THE WATCHTOWER madhouse

by Terry in

c.t.russell began with a personal "purpose" which was to find a way to believe in/worship god while doing away with the beliefs he found to be personally uncomfortable such as hellfire.

he shopped around and cherry picked 2nd adventist views as a foundation.

to this he added pyramidology.

The Oracle

Terry,

Brilliant.

I am relatively new here, and am not familiar with your posting history, but I must say that this particular essay is excellent.

Thank you for putting your thoughts in writing.

Do you realize you could be disfellowshipped for this? LOL. I jest.

Seriously dude - great post.

The Oracle

54

half-way house for ex-Jdubs

by tula in

this chart is out of date and i am wondering if anyone can find more contemporary statistics?.

i am wondering if there is some way possible for wbts to be billed for medical expenses caused by the psychological harm inflicted when dubs end up in dr. offices or hospital as a result of spiritual trauma and spiritual warfare?.

seems to me that we could make them take some responsibility.. (i am not providing the link because this is second-hand information).

The Oracle

I hear ya Junction Guy.

Your point about the discouragement of education is a good one.

It is painfully obvious why the dubs discourage it.... Education will lead to an awakening in most people.

Generally I don't think this lawsuit idea will fly, but I applaud the idea.

The Oracle